Update on Earned Time Off Grievance
Dec 9th update – We were informed by the Company that today they would be paying out the monies owed to individuals who had ETO wrongly paid out at base rate. For people whom they have banking information on file, the money will be deposited directly into your account -and for those who have been removed from their system, they will be sending out cheques to the last address they had on file.
People who can’t understand how they arrived at the amount they did, should contact the company and request more information or a printed breakdown. Phone: 250-734-8024
If you are unsuccessful at that or unsatisfied with the explanation, contact our office and we will go over it with you.
Back Pay for Earned Time Off – The Company has informed us that it is taking significantly longer than they anticipated to calculate the amounts still owing for time off taken since peoples’ card rate was unilaterally changed to base rate.
The Company now believes they will have all the calculations done and money paid out by the end of the year.
PS – I’m just the messenger
Strike Fund – At the last wage caucus meeting held in October, delegates maintained the position that no further money would be returned from the regional strike fund until there was a resolve to Local 1129 (the last Local) negotiations. People felt that it was inappropriate to wind up the fund while there is still the one Local trying to achieve the pattern.
For anyone that has moved – make sure that the Local has your new address so when monies are returned to the Local, we can send them to the right place.
Ian
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I have a tax question: I collected IE until September when I received the final severance paycheque. I had three weeks remaining on my claim.
The tax receipt from IE is requesting(demanding) a 30% payback of funds.
My understanding, when we opened our claims, was that due to the fact that we had not used IE within the previous ten years that we were exempt from the payback requirement.
Has anybody else run into this problem?
Comment by Bradley Briscoe | March 29, 2011 |
Did you report the severance payout to EI at the time of the payout? When I got my severance package I reported it in my EI claim and though it took about 8 weeks of investigation by EI, the verdict was that I didn’t have to repay any funds but my claim was suspended to Feb 2012.
Comment by Bob | April 3, 2011 |
Thank-you, yes my severance was reported so I cannot again collect EI until something like October 2085.
They say that, because I collected EI within ten years of the current TAXATION year, the 2010 benefits are not protected. My clam began in 2009 so they now feel that I had a claim within the past ten years ….. even if it was the same single claim. Goofy eh?
By the way ….. as it stands, I am no longer a Fort McMurray employee. I am giving Sparwood a shot. It is with the same company but 7/7 schedule with hotel/food/flights home. I will share postings if/when they come available ….. so far, it sounds like a pretty good deal.
It has been a whirlwind winter !!!!
Comment by Bradley Briscoe | April 7, 2011
I would like to know what is happening with the grievence still on the books that has to do with the company paying people out for all their holidays at base rate.I know there are some people who severed before the date that was included in the grievence that was won, myself included.I believe that date to be May 9 /2009.We are still waiting for our money.
Comment by Grant Hall | March 7, 2011 |
Recieved my cheque today and would like to thank the local for not letting this money slip away into King Dicks bonus fund. Merry Christmas and all the best in the new year
Comment by Jack Norton | December 14, 2010 |
Ask for your stubs from payroll and check the numbers…..floaters don’t seem correct if you were a tour worker!
Comment by Erika | December 14, 2010 |
So did the company agree to correct it if we contact them or what is the procedure for getting the 20 hours of pay?
Thanks
Comment by CEP member | December 15, 2010 |
The agreement between the Locals and the Company is that you have to work so many 12 hour shifts in order to qualify for 12 hour floaters. I don’t have the agreement in front of me, but it’s either every 25 or 30 shifts worked you get one 12 hour floater. Anyone that worked the required number of shifts( i.e. SET operator) got 12 hour floaters for 2009 – anyone that didn’t receives 5 – 8 hour floaters.
Comment by Ian | December 15, 2010
Local 630 is looking into this. We have examples where our tour workers have only received 40 hours in floaters and not the expected 60 hrs (5 floaters for a tour worker).
Comment by Erika | December 15, 2010
We are also looking at issues with the 10 hour bonus. Get in touch with your rep and please have a pay stub that can be photocopied.
Comment by Erika | December 15, 2010
Received a pay slip in mail today Dec 14 for accrued vac and floater on term another $1000 thank you. But my pay YTD totals only show $1300 in income tax did we not pay our share of tax on money we received for severance or was that some other from of tax I don’t have my pay slip from my severance to check can someone tell me how the tax was paid?
Comment by Terry | December 14, 2010 |
The amount of tax you paid on severance would depend on how much you were able put into rrsp’s. Many people were able to shelter their whole severance and so wouldn’t have paid any taxes on it.
Comment by Ian | December 14, 2010 |
The income tax you paid on the severance is listed as T4A Tax on the pay slip.
Comment by Bob | December 14, 2010 |
Thank’s Bob/Ian and Erika for your help I had thought that it was something like that it doesn’t show on the lastest YTD totals I was starting to stress over it.
Comment by Terry | December 15, 2010
I have another great question,been on disabilty from elk fall’s since ’08 and would like to know if i get my pension from mill and local 1123/does anybody know this answer?
Comment by Daryl | December 14, 2010 |
The Company would have made pension contributions for you until the mill went down in Feb 09. After that point there wouldn’t have been any further contributions made by them unless you took earned time off. There is a clause in our pension plan that says the employers aren’t required to make contributions for people on disability when there isn’t work available for them.
Comment by Ian | December 14, 2010 |
i went on disability in ’08 and now i’m long term disability,do i qaulify for any money?
Comment by Daryl | December 14, 2010 |
It isn’t something you qualify for. It is being compensated because the Company paid ETO at the wrong rate of pay. When you went onto LTD, you should have had the option to either keep all your existing earned time off, or cash it out. If you cashed it out, and the cash out was based on base rate then yes you would be getting some money. If you didn’t cash out then no you won’t be getting any.
Comment by Ian | December 14, 2010 |
Best of the season to you. I was wondering since I was on spare board at the end,if I was eligible for any monies?
Comment by Mike Griffin | December 12, 2010 |
I just recieved my cheque for floaters and accrued supp in the mail even though I was spareboard since the cutback on #4 machine.
Comment by Tom Newman | December 14, 2010 |
It didn’t matter that you were on spareboard. The money that you received was for the 5 floaters that the Company didn’t give you May 1, 2009, and the sup time they carved out from the beginning of the layoff up until you severed.
Comment by Ian | December 14, 2010
Hey everyone
I too got my money. Think I’ll go out and buy some Catalyst shares after hearing the news that King Richard Garneau is now the CEO of Abitibi Bowater. Think the CEP would be smart to send the Executives of both locals back east so they can tell them what to expect
Comment by Gord Hartley | December 11, 2010 |
I don’t believe the company plans to give a breakdown unless you call them and ask for it. It’s good to see people are getting their money. It was a long road to get here.
Comment by Dan | December 11, 2010 |
Hey group, I received money in my chequing account so assume that this is the balance of money owing.
My question of the day is: Has anybody ever received any paperwork concerning the deposits made from Catalyst? I have nothing but lump sum records but would like to see a break down of the numbers ….. I’ve read about large companies making mistakes before!!
SO!! I’ve yet to have wet hair when I have not been in the shower. It’s great!! Come on out!!
Comment by Bradley Briscoe | December 11, 2010 |
I am curious.
What happens if CEP 1129 does not have a ratified contract by April 30 2012?
Comment by Ian Makus | November 15, 2010 |
I think Ian’s point below explains it. The caucus will decide when it is no longer required for the purpose it was put in for,that could extend past April 2012.
For Brad the question of whether 630 has repaid the caucus money is their issue. I believe they have repaid out of their general acct since they did not get it back from caucus. Local 1123 could not afford to do that, the amount would be too much and they are still fighting grievances on our behalf(even though we are not members anymore)
The money was put in the caucus fund to help get us all a collective agreement, that worked for us and now it is there to help our friends at 1129. It’s easy to say we should get the money back because we are down, well 1129 members haven’t had a raise since 2007 and are going through exactly what we were with Catalyst.
I have money in that fund as well and also lost my job at Elk. But at the same time I understand what they are going through and will be content if it helps just a little, even if that means I never see that money again. That’s why I put it there to start with and that reason hasn’t changed.
Just my take on it
Comment by Dan | November 16, 2010 |
Thank you Dan, your point is a good one and one with which I agree. Cold and DRY up here in FM …… enjoy the day.
Comment by Bradley Briscoe | November 24, 2010
Thank your comments Dan, well said. The answer is close to what I was thinking.
Comment by Ian Makus | December 1, 2010 |
Brad – It’s the Caucus’s money until they decide its no longer required, then it will be returned. That’s what we agreed too when we voted to be in the caucus for the last round of bargaining.
Comment by Ian | November 11, 2010 |
Hi Ian, thank you for your continuing efforts to keep us informed. I heard a rumor that local 630 members were repaid their strike fund contributions out of the local’s pocket. If this is true……can the same not be done for 1123 members(past)?
Through no fault of our own we lost membership in the union that we supported for a lifetime. I am failing to understand why it is expected that our support for 1129 should continue when we no longer a member of the “family”.
If the company is expected to pay out what was owed to us we should be granted the same treatment by our former union. 1129 is now exacting the support of folks who have become strangers to their cause.
The fund being permitted to simply state “too bad for you” does not seem reasonable to me. Give us our money back.
I hope all is well with the members of my past………it was grand.
(:
Comment by Bradley Briscoe | November 11, 2010 |